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With so much new RFF poo information sent daily, by members and ex-members, it was necessary for the poomeister to create a second RFF Poo Page. FED, of course, will continue being the tour de force of the poo commentary and daily operations. Without FED, much of catches would be missed. |
Note: I will also be using this page as a dumping site for old Jorge Terrible material, since he isn't the Big Cheese anymore. So, if Moe Mod is a black angel then surely FED was sent from above; but if Gassy is really the RFF Devil then who the Hell is the RFF God? |
 THE BIG CHEESE'S WIFE DOES WHAT??? While surfing the internet, photopoo came across these interesting public records: WOW!
Now we have some questions for Jorge:
She helps her employer fillet men's God Given Gonads. She corrects her husband's atrocious spelling errors. She works hard so her kids won't have to join the US Army for their college funds. She lets her hubby use her credit card to buy expensive Teutonic glass. She registers the domain name frankgranovski.com because her husband doesn't know how to spell "Frank." What’s up with the screen cap of the "Dr. Evil" character from the Austin Powers films along with a "Psycho Dad" signature on the home theater discussion.com forum?
"I am waiting to hear form the shop I am buying som especializedmachine from for coding the lenses. As soon as I get thego ahead, i will begi responding to those ho have already expressed an interest in RFF coding their lenses." Contact Jorge today. Let’s hope that he doesn’t butcher any lenses like he butchers the English language! (Can you believe that someone who writes like a failing 4th grade student was able to find a job at Intel?) Jorge did post "fake M8" pics all over the Internet which he ripped-off from this website.
"For all those who think this is a fake image, Jorge has stated that he himself took the photographs of this camera. I've got to believe him." ---Frank Scheitrowsky "Can you chaps not spot the Photoshop-style retouching all over the place??? 'I've got to believe him.' This is right out of a history book... 4th Grade!" ---Magus. "Going back to the 'Is it real?' question, the shadow of the camera (in frontal view) is definitly PS generated. It is phoney." ---FrankS. "Why would jorge give us fake images? Because he isn't God and wants to raise revenue through hits to the site. The more charitable answer is because he believes the images to be a true representation of the camera - whether they are or not is another matter." ---Steve Unsworth. "I just got off the phone with a very reputable dealer in NY. This person has handled th M8 and had to sign a NDA regarding it. I asked him to validate weather the photos I have up are like the camera he handled. He said he does not dispute the photos...." ---Big Cheese. Hey Jorge, you only have one sponsor in NY and that’s Photo Village. We know how to connect the dots. I’m sure your sponsor appreciates this information, too. Thank you!
Perhaps Frank Scheitrowsky can have his 4th grade students verify this information on the Internet tomorrow while Frank is busy posting about his latest waiting for the mail adventures. Update: "RFF is in the process of acquiring the necessary equipment and data to encode M lenses with the new Leica 6-bit code for use with the upcoming M8. We have not completed this process yet nor have we modified any lenses. We are waiting for the M8 to be released and approval from a patent attorney before we commit 100% to this task. Once we get the green light, the service will be offered to RFF members at a substantial savings. RFF is also working on applying the code to the Zeiss ZM lenses. If you are interested in this service, please send an email to RFF." ---Big Cheese August 3, 2006. Jorge Terrible did brag: "My M8 is shipping. Well, My M8 is shipping today accordng to Tony at Popflash. The cool thing is my SN# Which is xxxx007 Call me Bond" (mi inglés es muy terrible). Friday the 13th of October 2006. Jorge's "especializedmachine" saga comes to a close, or should we say it died a sudden death. There have been no more updates for some time from this money making scheme. Why? Leica owns the M8 lens bar coding patent. Gee, I knew that, and so did everyone else (except for poor Jorge). I guess he'll have to bump up fees (again) along with whittling more wood. November, 9, 2006. "Who is returning their M8?" Jorgea's latest Pnut spam. "With all the talk about issues with the camera, I would like to know how many are sending it back. There is a poll here Jorge Terrible did write, "I am keeping my M8. But, ff this filter and coding lens is the solution, Leica should be giving the service and filters for free! Afterall, 5k is a lot of money!!!" November 9, 2006. Jorge's open letter to Leica. Daddy’s $5,000 toy is a piece of shit. Jorge and all the other Leica shills get their fellow Leicaphiles excited about this camera before it’s released. Now that everyone has blown $5,000, Jorge’s using the RFF forum to shame the executives at Leica. Who should really be ashamed of their behavior? The GAS bags at RFF, of course! See the letter here. November 10, 2006. "Folks, hear is the first picture of a Luigi M8 case. Luigiis now producingthe cases and taking order." ---Admin & Big Cheese (mi inglés es muy terrible). His pathetic attempts at Leica shilling is a dismal failure, yet he keeps dumping all over the Internet. One Pnut member writes, "RFF has achieved National Enquirer status." Another member writes, "Jorge...every forum I have gone to has this same cross posted junk from you? I really have to question your motivation. Are you trying to start an internet hysteria and what possibly could be the reasons? I'd really like to know. Thanks." I say, he most certainly is on a fool's mission. Aside: "Photo poo saved me $5,000! Thanks Frank! ---Dez." Dec. 3, 2006. New "especializedmachine." but not from the "Admin and Big Cheese." "RE: CAMERAGAS SHILL" - JULY 19, 2007 "Frank, keep up the vigil," writes an RFF member in very good standing. Jorge T. is a complete power hungry asshole who delights in swinging his (not so) big dick in everyone's face. I've had enough of his dictator-like 'management' style at RFF, etc. To wit; I recently checked in on a thread he started at RFF entitled 'Chrome lenses up for grab.' I was naturally curious but was disappointed to see that it was nothing other than another one of Jorge Toralba's scams trying to sell his personal photo gear on RFF without going through the 'classified' section AND advertising a link to his BS CAMERAGAS sight - both in clear violation of RFF's rules. After posting a response to his thread, he ultimately reminded me that he was the King of The Hill and promptly erased all of my objections and closed the thread... Here is the complaint which I filed. Your pal Back Alley contacted me and graciously acknowledged Toralba's BS tyranny and promised to contact Mr. Gandy with his own objection - and then get back to me. To date, nothing else has come down the pike - indicating that my rant is most likely dead...: Jorge Toralba posting under the user name Solaris10 and I engaged in a discussion in the Leica M8 Forum regarding his clear violation of RFF 'Golden Rule #5,' as well as other clearly stated rules and regulations. Jorge posted a thread entitled 'Chrome M lenses up for grabs!' The title of the post was obviously very enticing and I decided to view the thread. To my surprise, I discovered that the post was clearly a self-promotion for CAMERAGAS.com as well as a member (solaris10) circumventing the classified selling decorum set forth in rule #5. I brought this to Mr. Toralba's attention in a polite yet curt manner (responding to his posting). His reponse was to send me a 'private message' (PM) in which he stated that he had 'created this site and he made the rules' and could therefore break them at will. In addition, he threatened that I should not stir the pot, so to speak. To this, I took the time to craft an appropriate reply (posting it in response to his post) in which I acknowledged who he was, but that he was still in violation of the rules, etc. In addition to his PM, I also received several other messages (via email and PM) from fellow RFF members who also were following the thread - and who also felt that Jorge was in blatant violation of the rules here. One stated in his communication that 'The Big CHeese Smells Rotten.' Among those RFF members that contacted me off the list, several stated that they wished to post their feelings about this but were 'shocked' to find that my final reply to Jorge, including his somewhat threatening statement to me had been uncermoniously deleted - leaving only Jorge's orignal post - shilling his lenses on his new site (CAMERAGAS), and my one initial response posting. Jorge has also added a link to his CAMERAGAS LISTINGS under his posts, which once again, is in direct violation of the rules, concerning self-promotion, etc. I realize that Jorge and Mr. Gandy are in business together and that this note puts me at a disadvantage with 'The Power's That Be.' For all I know, it is Jorge that is reading this complaint... It's sad, because I like visiting this site, and appreciate the hard work to keep it viable. That said, it is also the great number of RFF members who also keep it afloat. I'm not looking for trouble, nor do I wish to be threatened or the insinuation that I will be banned or asked to leave leveled against me, but I do think that rules are meant to be observed - and by all who participate here. As it says: 'Why have rules in the first place? The rules are there for the protection of the community as a whole and to prevent abuse, conflict and disharmony within the forums.'
MR. BARNACK INVENTS WINDER FOR LEICA M8! Watching Tom building his Leica winders for years, Mr. B wondered, "Why not for the Leica M8?" So up he hopped on Tom's drafting table, on all fours, and came up with a unique design which disables the built-in auto winder for the 20's bottom trigger; thus thumb operation is enabled without being over-ridden. After a couple of cans of Fancy Feast and a sniff of catnip, Mr. B took his new idea into Tom's workshop (the second bedroom) and reset all the drills and presses for its production. However, at this point (having only paws to work with), Tom had to take over (the drilling and pressing/chiseling and hammering). The final black paint should be rolled on by July 15, 2007. Note: only 10 will be manufactured and 9 are already spoken for. Get your order in 'cause this new M8 winder will be a collectors piece for sure. Meow.
Unable to cope with seeing their stupid words posted here, the GASbags are crying foul and accusing the poomeisters of altering them. Rest assured, the poo does indeed quote accurately and the GASbags have thiner skins than originally believed. One of the retaliations are the Action Alerts when clicking some of the RFF links posted on the poo. Be careful! The stooge behind RFF is logging all IP addresses of people who are referred to RFF via the poo and then he bans those addresses. That way the the stooge will know who reads the poo. In order to lift the ban, one would have to write to the new owner/administrator (Stephen Gandy) or turn off the modem and get a new IP address (or use a proxy or Google's cache). Action Alert Examples: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 Hmmm.... Shortly after I posted these examples, the stooge removed them. (He is an avid reader of the poo.) More of the story here. MOE KISSING HIS MASTER'S ASS "there have been some very rude comments/accusations towards jorge in various threads of late. personally i would have closed the threads and booted the 'offenders' but jorge is a much classier guy than i am. joe" Well, his profession is "son-in-law" so that makes him a professional? Just wait 'til you find out what this classy guy's wife does.
Hey Frank, Backdooralley must have given up his search for a redheaded woman. Instead of wasting valuable camera funds on a gal pal, he finally bought a Nikon rangefinder and one with RED leather! He posted pictures of his new fondling friend here: March 12, '07. FED writes, check out this thread: rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36794 ... HEY FOLKS HERE'S HOW TO GET BANNED FROM RFF Brian Shaw says to moe, "You sound like my sixth grade teacher, Sister Rose Delores." rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36794 ... Brian Shaw got banned for his posts in this thread. This is a clear example of the RFF moderators behaving like fascist "thought police." Think about this before you waste your time with rangefinderforum.
Kimberly Cockson, moderator, writes, "Mango started a thread to organise a meeting of RFF members in London. What has politics got to do with that and yet the thread was trashed despite intervention from the mods. Ruben, against forum rules, uploaded copyright material and asked for political comment. What does that have to do with organising an RFF meeting? If he really wished to discuss the photograhic implications of those pictures, he was at liberty to start a new thread with links. Instead he chose to start this thread in the manner he did. That would seem to indicate that his purpose was to troll rather than start a discussion." Here's the thread Mango started: www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36712 WHAT TO DO IF YOU'VE BEEN BANNED FROM RFF
CHECK OUT THE RETARDS TRYING TO WRECK MANGO'S THREAD
ASH replies: Nah you are threatening, not documenting. Check with your English tutor, or didn't you get through school?" http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36712&page=3 Yup. It's love sweet love on RFF, backdoor-alley style. Mrs. Shitrowsky doesn't know how to drive. Check out Shitrowsky’s rant. He doesn't say what his wife was doing in her car while the other driver was backing into her. It's always someone else's honour that Shitrowsky questions. Typical FrankS style of whining: Schitrowsky should learn how to fart when he has GAS:
In other news, the pseudo-meisters Billy Buttocks and Erica Milner have been trolling again, posting nasties on several boards...Jorge posts more crap from his $26,000 Leica M system: ...photos/torralba...2885542 rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37869 JT's moving to Dallas as a temp but can't stand the heat. He adds, "I get along with my tree hugging friends up here quite well. But I must admit that being a strong conservative it's quite odd being 1 out of 100 that. GOP! Ok guys, dont go balistic on me. this is not a politcal post." "I heard that RFF Book #3 will be dedicated to moe and the M8. It’s supposed to be printed on single ply tissue paper and will be available through Loo Loo for 30 bucks a roll. If you prepay, they throw in a free book of poems, 'weenie yanks and wee scottish bimbos,' by moe. LOL! I always enjoy a good laugh at those GASbags. ---FED"
Doc Ramen “Noodles” Gaseroso and the other GASbags should take this little test. RFF REALITY CHECK: ARE YOU A GASBAG? ANOTHER RFF TROLL THREAD Keith has over 1500 posts and a huge collection of Leica cameras by RFF standards. A few months ago, he photographed all his fondling friends and posted the photos on RFF. I think he may be trying to move up on the RFF pecking order and pass Shitrowsky. rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40935 Keith writes: "OK ... your awake, refreshed (hopefully) and ready to face the world. What's the first thing you do ... or contemplate doing while your gyros are spinning up?" Physiognomy writes: "I really dont think you want to hear what I do 1st thing in the morning..." Greyhoundman writes: "Piss in someone's wheaties, so their day gets off to a worse start than mine." Dave Swain (greyhoundman) is down to 48 posts. He must have deleted a bunch of stuff or Gandy must have done it for him. Jon Claremont writes: "I pop into the cafe next door for a 'bica' (like espresso), and a 'pastel de nata' (a custard tart), but I don't join other people in the home distilled brandy also. Say 'Hi' to a few friends in the cafe, watch the tv news, and look at the light, and plan today's photos." No one shits, showers or shaves. No one brushes their teeth (if they have any) or gets dressed. No one bangs the wife or girlfriend. I wonder what back door alley does? "roll out of bed naked and across the floor to the computer. fondle camera. send warnings to noobs. fondle camera. sit on toilet, urinate and think about the wee scottish bimbo's navel. fondle camera. check email while eating a banana." continued (part 2)... In that trolling thread where Keith asks what everyone does first thing in the morning: Jon Claremont writes: "Go to FrankG's website." Schitrowsky responds: "I wonder Jon, if you would still like that website as much if you were one of the people on his bad list? Anyway, it says way more about him, than those he teases. I suppose Jon, that you're sending him screen snaps and info from RFF for his website? Yes?" NEWS FLASH! Dr. Ramen "Noodles" Gaserosa has discovered a cure for GAS! His theory is based on the notion that eating one big meal at Red Lobster is better than eating several hamburgers from McDonald's. I’m sure he’ll go down in the annals of gastroenterology as a genius. Check it out: 
Do you see a pattern in Jorge's photos? (Jorge likes women with big butts.) "Lovely view" translates to "nice ass." I wonder what his wife and kids think about him using a $5,000 camera to take photos of women’s butts. Attention RFF subscribers! Jorge has a serious butt fetish and he needs more expensive gear to photograph those "lovely views" on the streets of Portland. Hey, at least we know he’s not limp-wristed like backdooralley! According to Joe, Jorge's Leica M8 is for sale! (No bites yet.) Herr Hett (the troll) likes fruity tropical drinks with black bints on the side:
"The ultimate Sin!! Leica sale. I have lost my mind and am now seriously thinking of going DSLR 100%. I have a lot invested in the Leica gear and would rather put the money to better use. Regardless If I sell, it will be the complete kit. I do not want to break it up. Breaking it up will leave me with regretful feelings while I still see bits laying around. If I sell it as an entire kit it is all gone at once. So here you go. All is like new with original box.
Moe mod to ex-Big Cheese: "i'm sorry jorge, i'll have to delete this thread. you'll have to put this in the classifieds like everyone else. stephen says so...joe." Steve Unsworth writes, "Jorge, I'm not convinced that you have any real interest in photography. You just seem to buy gear (and lots of it), decide it's not for you and then sell it shortly afterwards. You did it with the DMR and now your doing it with the M gear. Slow down, think what you really want and if necessary take up another hobby."
As you can see, RFF's limp-wristed pimp finds no shame in back-pedaling. 2 weeks later Jorge Torralba posted this both on RFF and the Pnut: "Which wise for the M8? (Feb 20, 2007; 05:33 p.m.) Considering both lenses is similar in price which would you get? Leica tri-elmar 16-18-21 f4 or Zeiss 15mm f2.8 ZM I know about the CV15 but am not interested. Should note that the Zeiss is not coupled." (No one wanted to buy his M8, MP and lenses.) John Brewton: "Jorge, I think you should get over your obvious bias of the CV 15. Plenty of photos posted on LUF indicate it's excellent. Of course, if you just love spending money go for the Zeiss." Did you see the new Argus C3 forum? Jorge Torralba writes: "Just created is a new Argus forum for perhaps the highest production 35mm rangefinders of all time, the American made Argus. The C-3 was produced for decades, with an estimated production over 3,000,000 cameras!" A few days later, Stephen Gandy writes, "I would like to thank everyone for the support. This really is a special online community, and I am very committed to only making RFF better. IF anyone cares, my first RFF move was having George add the Argus forum. The importance of those cameras combined with their relatively low cost and lack of recognition has always facinated me." So the Argus forum was Gandy's idea and not the Big Cheeseball's? Then in the wee hours of Jan 18, 2007, Jorge Torralba e-mailed me: "Major RFF announcement.... On the morning of January 18th 2007 at approximately 9:00 AM pacific standard time (GMT -8) RFF will make a major announcement. Be sure to check in tomorrow for more news." Hmmm, what's up? A little later Jorge posts: "RangeFinderForum Under New Ownership! I have found a great resource that can help RFF grow and keep it running the way it is. Stephen Gandy from CameraQuest.com has assumed ownership of RFF and promises to keep things on track. This is great news...." Stephen Gandy: "...I am now the new owner of the above web sites. George will remain very active as Admin...In this photography world dominated by Digital SLRs, rangefinder and film photographers have to stick together to keep the cult going!"
Volker Hett writes: "so this is realy not a hack from somebody we know too well?" (Thank you, Herr Vulgar.) Todd Hanz writes, "here's to good times ahead...hopefully." Kevin M writes: "I have to disagree with the sentiments expressed so far because on paper, this is a BAD idea. No offense to Stephen, he's obviously an enthusiast and a decent guy, but he is also a retailer, and I fear we're about to lose our little oasis of objectivity. A forum is first and foremost a place for the free exchange of ideas, and it's bad enough that any one person should 'own' it, nevermind a person whose objectivity is clouded by being the leading importer for one particular brand of camera. Where, for example, will someone turn now for advice about a Cameraquest deal gone bad? His site, as valuable a resource as it is, also reads at times like a gushing fanzine for all things Cosina/Voigtlander, and I don't want to see that editorial stamp used here." Mex Gabrielma writes: "I'm with you re: your concerns, Kevin. I just wish everyone the best. We can only see if it flies after take-off. We lend support. It's a two-way street. Vox populi. But so far, godspeed, Jorge and Stephen!" Jeff Greene writes, "You made explicit some of my concerns, but I would think that Jorge's continuing presence is testimony to the separation between the two, but then again I am an optimist! The greatest mistake that could be made here would be for RFF to become the mouthpiece for Voightlander/Cosina USA!" Frank Scheitrowsky wants to know, "If money changed hands, how much do you think RFF is worth? (I'm certainly not expecting an answer from Jorge or Stephen, as that would be gauche to ask them.) Just wondering because it's such an ethereal thing." After all the kicking and screaming since last May about paid memberships, Scheitrowsky finally pays his dues and Jorge sells the forum. LOL. Yes, it's an 'ethereal thing' and has nothing to do with Scheitrowsky's anal-retentive behavior. Here's more from Frank: "I'm not sure whether to be excited or to worry about this announcement. (You know I have a hard time with change last time that happened here.)" "Hey Frank, does Gandy own the Cosina Voigtlander forum that you post on? Are you going to ask him to reinstate your membership on RFF? I just checked the WHOIS database for rangefinderforum.com. It looks like the deal took place on January 14th. ---FED" Huck Finn: "ownership by Cameraquest is a clear conflict of interest." Kevin M: "so we sell our souls to the devil for upkeep?" Huck Finn: "the internet is sorting itself out, but the general trend in the media in America has been to move in an unhealthy direction in the past quarter century. So-called 'news' on TV has deteriorated into fluff instead of serious journalism. It is now just one more advertising platform to attract viewers & fill up space between ads." "Jorge, the first thing I was thinking after your announcement was: it would be great if Stephens RF web site would be integrated with RFF and grow as an RFF FAQ." ---Roland. April 1, 2007. in-between the should I keep it/should I sell it flip-fopping, Jorge Torralba buys a 2nd M8 body and posts a magenta photo of dumpster divers rummaging through their finds.
Check this out. 3 people on dslrexchange.com and "Welcome to our newest member, Stephen Gandy." Jorge writes, "Yes. I am in layback mode working on another site which will be the mother of all sites for camera gear. Stay tuned for more...." Geez, what could it possibly be... Buttshooters.com? Here's some Aplug member commentary about RFF. Andy K hit the nail on the head: "of course if I ever become just a camera collector and feel the need to start endless threads about 'my new purchase' or 'what next for my collection?' then I might go back there." Copake_Ham: "anyway, as I'm not active over there, and stopped watching my mail to see what new GAS-relief gadget had arrived, this is all rather academic for me." And Bertram: "I left RFF when that Deviant Art Contest thing happened because this sort of imperial censorship an feetlicking moderation wasn't acceptable any longer...It has turned early into a place for the Leica coffeetable crowd and I expect this to be the dominating clientele in future. Could not be more boring." Jan 27, 07. Back-door alley bashing on Aplug. Copake_ham: "I do see where their moderator-in-chief is now lusting after a digiRF with all kinds of obvious hints. I guess he figures if he hints enough folks over there will chip-in and buy him one of those like they did the ZM?" Bertram follows with: "I'm afraid this won't work a second time for the guy with the boiling streetgang blood and the hyper-sensitive neck !!! As soon as the M8 comes out with purple Croco leather he will buy one I suppose. Cheers." Back-door' is RFF's limp-wristed mod & double-cheese. Jan 29, 2007. Yet more RFF forums to be created by Gandy! He writes, "I like having choices, and I was surprised by some who don't want to have more choices in the forums." He must be referring to Jorge's esteemed moderator and leader of the GASbag gang, Back door alley. LOL http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?s=fd847e1fa15bfd3eff76e856bf46e0cf&t=35390 That new site the member Athena is referring to in that thread (hybridphoto.com) is owned by analog fanatic Sean Ross. I guess Sean got a touch of the digital fever and decided to start a new forum so his analog die-hards at APLUG wouldn't get pissed off and leave. LOL. Feb 5, '007. The GASbags can only stay away for so long. Brian Sweeney who quit posting in April 2006 after this post http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=284698#post284698 started posting again 2 days ago. It must have been the Nikoholic thread that got to him. Bryan Lee who quit posting in Feb. 2006 after this post rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=218918#post218918 started posting again last week. NEW ANTI-GASBAG (REAL-WORLD) LEICA M8 REVIEW http://thepriceofsilver.blogspot.com/2007/06/blog-post_03.html MORE BREAKING NEWS (AS OF JAN 31 '007) FED writes, "Hi Frank, Did you see this? I think RFF must be getting most of its traffic from the classified ads. It looks like it's going to turn into ebay lite." CameraQuest writes: "RFF Premium Membeships and Donations. I don't see member donations or Premium Memberships as being necessary any longer to help run RFF, as sponsor and classified ads should more than cover the expenses. Accordingly RFF donations will no longer be accepted, nor will new Premium Memberships be issued. Existing Premium Memberships will maintain the same benefits as before, until the membership expires. At that time, the Premium Membership will not be renewed. As recognition to their help to RFF, Premium members will retain the Premium Membership Icon as a momento of RFF's early days, even after the Premium Membership is expired. Thanks to all for supporting RFF! Stephen." Frank Scheitrowsky writes: "Let's not even wait for premium memberships to expire, please remove those 3 stars now, at least from my name." Doc Ramon_g writes: "Thank you Stephen. Correct me if I misunderstood, but this means that everyone will now have to pay to list items in the classifieds (once premium members' memberships expire)? Or were you referring to sponsors and classified ads from sponsors as the main source of RFF revenue?" Backdoor writes: "i think yes to both ray. members will pay for ads and the 'commercial' sponsors will also pay for banners etc.?" Doug writes: "Those whose premium memberships have expired, then, will be charged 2 bucks for an ad?" Backdoor answers: "yes. Joe" Feb 7, '007. "Apple Customer Service SUCKS !!!!!! You spend $$$ on their product. Their customer service closes at 18:00. You call the store you purchased it from and they say they are not allowed to offer support. If I was not beyond my 14 day return policy, this computer would be going back now!!!! I rather have a crappy computer with good customer support than a fancy computer with crappy customer support. This apple has a worm rotting it out." Big Cheese "Big Cheese" is such a whiner! He thinks his little tantrum on RFF will get him some priority attention from Apple. A douche bag attitude if I ever saw one! Check out what Athena posted in his thread: "I have never head anyone rant and rag on Apple regarding their customer service. I do not own one now - but I'm thinking of migrating over there. This post does not deter me because I think it says more about the poster than it does about the product!" http://www.dv-forums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3060#post3060
"I feel like a photographer," writes the dirty doc. "I took my new MP with a VC Nokton 50. I put the strap over my opposite shoulder so the camera rested crossways. Very comfortable. I felt something. Don't get me wrong. Thinking about what I was looking at, watching the light and textures and reflections, I was IN the photos again, a somewhat poetic and spiritual idea and feeling of an intention of writing with light onto film what is simply there in time and space simplicity, old school, mechanical like a great fountain pen, or the wonder of a well made watch. Somehow I think this Leica is going to be good for the soul." Doctor Ramon_G seems to have an Average User Response of 3 out of 5. Maybe he's burned out looking at 'roids and dingle-berries everyday and needs a career change. How would you rate him as a troll? 5 out of 5? As a photographer? 0 out of 5? Another RFF poll thread by yhe good Doctor Ramon. "Telemarketers: How do you deal with them? I used to get worked up, but now I do not even bother. How do YOU deal with these annoying phone calls? I thought this may be a source of some novel ideas, a laugh or two, or even just a thread to vent your frustration. And yes, the National Do Not Call list did not seem to have made a difference, at least for me. This may or may not be as applicable to our non-US members." Ralph Melisso: "I hang up on them without comment most of the time. When I do offer a comment it is usually very profane. Dad with a Camera." Joe Ruzzuto: "i used to do the seinfeld thing...ask for their number so i could call them back later. years ago i got rid of my land line and have only used a cell phone since. not one telemarketing call since." "Zeiss - strike 2 for quality control! Dear Zeiss, I love your new ZI camera and I think your lenses (the ones I have anyway) are very sharp...but I have a concern. Your camera does everything I ask of it. I am a simple street shooter mostly and your 25 and 35mm lenses are ideal for my style of shooting. Both the 25 and 35 lenses came out of their respective boxes just perfect, pristine and ready to shoot, but the body had focus problems and focused way past infinity. It was a hassle but I was lucky and the dealer sent me another while i was still packing mine for the return trip. And now my new 50/2 lens has aperture blades all over the place---no neat little circle formed so I can shoot my simple little street scenes. Again, the dealer is sending me another lens and I will be returning mine to him. But this is not good. I have a ZI body with 3 lenses...the body and one lens had to be returned and exchanged. I expect more. Joe," moderator of RFF. (Quit taking things apart, Joe.) During this period of all the forum software chaos, Jorge's RFF lost at least one sponsor. Now half a year later (May 20, 2006), the forum seems somewhat stable so one sponsor was lured back. Jorge posted, "Welcome back Robert White. All, I would like to welcome back as a sponsor Robert White. As you know, Robert White is the premier camera shop in Europe. This may be a little premature on my part to mention but Robert White is now the official UK distributor of Zeiss; and if you are looking for an Epson RD1, the word is that Robert White has acquired a good stock of them and is selling them at a very good price. Anyway, welcome back Robert White. (Kinda sounds like the title of a movie.) Any typos or incorrect spelling are due to electronic transfer errors." This pissed off one of RFF's members because he knew better, having had a mixed bag from dealing with Robert White, and posted, "I've bought from Robert White on 6 occasions now. On 4 of those 6 occasions, everything went very well, and I certainly found them a good seller. On 2 of those occasions, they were advertising stuff on their website as in stock (Konica lenses, Epson RD1) when they didn't actually have them in stock. I don't think that's terribly reputable, personally." Thanks, Wintoid, for exposing some poo! Hopefully, Jorge won't kick you off for coming forward. Update: Wintoid got kicked off and his post is nuked. Thanks, Jorge! You da (fill in the blank). Big Cheese deleted his "Psycho dad" signature on his home theater profile. Guess what? I made a screen cap of it last year and it's attached. Now that people are actually questioning Jorge's sanity, he doesn't think "psycho dad" is funny anymore. What a dope! Hey, remember when he used to tell others that he felt sorry for them, in a sarcastic way, because they had negative attitudes? There's something else going on. Maybe he's thinking about "going postal" on his wife and kids. More poobits: Jorge the IT wiz: Big Cheese is crying for help on this forum because of software bugs in the RFF gallery. An old post with Jorge’s email (torralba97068@yahoo.com). 97068 is the zip code for West Linn, Oregon. Jorge must have sold his 986 forum. 986forum.com belongs to: kwei, richard rkwei@comcast.net, rk, inc, 69 intervale road, dedham, Massachusetts 02026, United States 6176333366. Have you come across some funny poo? Send these poobits to the poo. Disclaimer: non-commercial, photopoo is a satire of online photo forums and is solely for amusement and entertainment purposes. This site is not intended for the physically and/or mentally under-aged, nor for the ironically challenged. |
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