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"Truth brings forth hatred"

that's for quoting meThe 2006 Zeiss Ikon contest was rigged! Just days after the contest was launched, the rangefinder site experienced a number of performance issues. For weeks and months it ran like molasses, then it would go off-line. This cycle repeated itself daily as new people were joining left, right and centre, endeavouring to upload their contest photos Besides this, many were verbally abused and bounced off by the owner or chased off by the ass kissing trolls such as the whiners, Richard Silfverberg, Gabrielma, and several Teutonic types. The owner's ass must have been well licked too because some members had their IP addresses locked. So during this plagued period numerous photographers disappeared. To drive the last nail into the coffin, on April 1st the contest was extended for 2 whole days with the same issues and this time the site was completely butchered with more photos and posts deleted. Members of the fold couldn't even log in! Then the owner announced the contest was closed. Can you believe this? Of course the excuse was a server migration in progress, blah blah blah, and then another one. I would bet that the winner will be a crony and perhaps shrouded in a pseudo to make the whole affair look legitimate. The only thing I'm wondering about is whether popflash was in on the conspiracy.

Update: okay, I am certain Popflash Photo's Zeiss contest was rigged. The owner of rangefinder forum wrote, "We received well over 500 fantastic entries for the contest.... We ended up with a set of 12 finalists.... The selections were made by 3 people. A process was followed and the judges had their say." 500 photos were passed over in just a few hours? Amazing or predetermined? Hell, there were at least 100 magical pics passed over for 12 pieces of crap in just 2 hours! Even my 2 were better than this schlock. The finalists were the ass kissers, of course. And now Jorge is begging for money! He should be ashamed of himself.

plump de dump or cheeks à la carte?Well, Zeiss did write, "Quite simply, you can count on a highly versatile creative tool that won't let you down." Ha! 3 people I know who each bought one had to send them back because of a misaligned viewfinder. Zeiss quality or bull? I don't know. To me the Ikon just seems like a highly polished Bessa but with a tacked on half-Leica logo. Both the Bessa and Ikon share the same metal shutter, unlike the Leica's chammy thingy, and the same type of paint, whether it's a silver Ikon or a black Ikon. Okay, it's all paint but at near trice the Bessa price. Don't misunderstand me. The Ikon in my opinion is a far better M-mount camera than a Leica. It's flash sync is faster, it's shutter is faster---and just as quiet---but at half the Leica price (if you buy the silver one). The sellers agree; the black one is the better one because it is the colour of professionals and it costs more. So what that the German Ikon is made in Japan. The German Leica M's are made in Portugal! However, all this is nonsense because the Bessa R2A/R3A is just as good a camera as the Ikon and the Leica M, and for much cheaper. After all, it's not so much the body that's important. It's the lens; and that's where Zeiss shines. They're super sharp and bokehful, and like the bodies, they are a smashing success. Thank you, Jesus, for Cosina.

Hey! If you don't like the electronic shutters, in June of 2006 you'll be able to buy the non-electro versions called the Bessa R2M and the R3M---an R2 in R2A/R3A bodies. Yup, same shutter and meter as the fabulous Zeiss Ikon. Now what do you think of that? And if you're not into rangefinders consider those ultra sharp Zeiss Nikon F-mount AIS lenses for your Nikon FM3a SLR. I'm sure it won't stop here. Nope. Cosina is climbing and with prices you can afford. Consider your next Bessa purchase from camera quest. However, you may have to troll the RFF forums to get the free worldwide shipping. Take care and keep your stick on the ice.

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40935

"GASBAG CHARACTERISTICS," BY BILL

"Unfortunately most GASbags either don't recognize what they are or they are unwilling to accept the truth. Here are some common characteristics of the GASbag:

Are you one?

  • ugly or odd looking
  • big bark, thin skinned
  • whiny, moody and bitchy
  • the need to feel superior and professional
  • the lack of a real life or the feeling of being trapped
  • never satisfied
  • habitual buying and selling
  • dribble posts on numerous camera forums
  • prefer a wrist strap instead of a neck strap
  • wear panties and/or women's clothing
  • play bingo once a week
  • watch the weather channel and/or FOX News

If you exhibit 4 or more of these characteristics then you are a GASbag." (A big cheer for Bill! An insightful piece indeed.)

"TREATING GAS IN MONTREAL," BY MICHEL

"I am going to be in Montreal for a few days. I wonder if anyone has a recommendation for some GAS relief? Michel. Latest addition: Kodak Brownie Flash six 20."
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43378 ... GASbag?

"it's so cute!!" BY BACKDOOR ALLEY

"my cv 25/4 p lens finally showed up today. it was in limbo (according to the tracking) for about 4 days. and it's so cute! i am amazed at how small and precise these cv lenses are. what a perfect fit for the r4m also. i may be in the minority with not panting for fast lenses but these 3.5 and f4 lenses work great outdoors and that's where most of my shooting takes place. and the f2 and 2.8 lenses do great indoors with a good 400 speed film. i was hoping to do some side by side shots with the zm 25 and cv 25 but my cv lens arrived without a hood and i'm not sure if it would be a fair fight. of course i guess i could shoot both w/o hoods, duh! i have said it before and i'll repeat it again, the r4 cameras and these small lenses are perfect for a small, light kit, even with 6 lenses there is still room in the small f6 domke bag. i could not be more pleased. joe"

CHINESE PROVERBS POSTED ON RFF

"Man who lay woman on ground find 'peace' on Earth."

"Virginity like bubble. One prick, all gone."

"Man with hand in pocket feel cocky all day."

"Man with big family always in hole."

"Man who stand on toilet is high on pot."

BACKDOOR ALLEY DEFENDS CHRIS WEEKS

Richard writes, "This is a grown man who uses juvenile delinquent profanity toward others in order to prop himself up." Now Joe Rizzuto dumps a big one.

Back-door Alley responds, "i have had enough of you belligerent cretin lacking in photo skill and slamming someone who is hollywood's no 1 celebrity photographer. what do you know is all i'm saying. joe"

Here's more Chris Weeks slamming on RFF: www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42949

The GASbags are jealous of CW's photo skills and fame. ---FED

CAVEGIRL DUMPS RICHARD

After a 2-year camera love affair (which began when the misses gave Richard the boot), Cavegirl caught the whack-job redhanded making love with his Canon Sweet P. Disgusted, Cavegirl went berserk, smashing little Richard and Sweet P with a baseball bat along with everything else in her path. Of course 911 was called by a concerned neighbor, but Cavegirl fled for a dig near Cairo. Not that the cops didn't believe poor Richard, that a girl could be so mean, but they decided not to bother and recommended a psychiatrist instead. Only recently did poor Richard start posting again. This is a true story passed on to the poo by you know who.

"NOKTON BOKEH," BY DAVID WATTS

"Please see attached, taken at a dinner party with friends a couple of weeks ago. I used an M7 with my new VC Nokton 40mm wide open at f1.4. Film was Tri-X 400 dev in ID11 1:1 but I think I over developed by a couple of minutes by accident. I'm not making any claims for the shot, but am interested in the bokeh-ish bits in the background, particularly the second figure from the left, in profile. I've attached an enlarged crop below too. The question is whether this is a characteristic of this lens - it's quite peculiar, but I think I like it though, reminds me a bit of solarisation. nb the only adjustments I've made in PS Elements was to remove dust and scratches."

John Richard Massey adds, "The very reason I sold this lens quite rapidly, only my results were even weirder, similar situation but with bar lighting that included pin-spots and such. Didn't like the effect at all, but that's down to personal taste."

KEN'S TAKE ON CAMERA GASBAGS, & OTHER GOODIES

http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/7.htm Roscoe comments: "That's funny, Frank. Ken Rockwell must have read photopoo. Frank Schitrowsky, Raid, Rover, Kimberly Cockson, Jorge Terrible and Backdoor alley are some of the biggest 'equipment measurebators' on the internet!"

Posted by FrankS: "Only the individual user can assess whether the sound difference is important to them."

"How true. Unfortunately this is not the way the whole issue is usually discussed. The reason Must be that some gearheads simply cannot live with the differentiations of a relative point of view, tho this is the only reasonable approach. Easier to rely on an absolute value no matter if it exists or not. The very most gear discussions suffer from that illnes. ---Bertram. Gone elsewhere" (Elsewhere is Aplug.)

Brian Shaw's rebuttal to Frank Shitowsky's honourable 'my shit doesn't stick' nonsense: "Honourable men don't air their dirty laundry in public... unless it is a duel at noon."

"IF i were to buy another camera...," BY BACKDOOR ALLEY

"IF i were to buy another camera......it would have built in 40mm framelines. and you? joe"
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42733

Back Alley (Moe) already owns like 5 Leica CLs which have 40mm frame-lines. What a shill. He should quit eating Tim Horton donuts and regulate his insulin injections.

"the more you use a camera the less you notice it"

"Which one of your 1000 cameras is that, Moe?" ---FED

"the more you use a camera the less you notice it," writes Backdoor Alley. "the sound you are noticing is likely more the type of sound then the actual decibel level. i did a check with my spl (sound pressure level) meter and the bessa was not significantly louder than other cameras i had on hand. (the results are posted here somewhere)"

"In my personal experience with 3 Bessa cameras (2 R's and an R2) and my Leica cameras (M2,3,6, IIf), I have noticed that he Bessas were all louder than any of the Leicas. The Leicas are NOT silent, and they are louder than almost all leaf shutter cameras. In most cases however, a Bessa will be quiet enough. I have been in situations though where the Bessa would be too loud, and where the Leicas were quiet enough. This has been my personal experience. This cannot be argued. Frank S - Pagan Buddhist, we are star dust - photo-sensitive to the sublime in the banal" www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43386

Pagan Buddhist is a GodPoomeister: "my 2 black Bessa R3A cameras are more quiet than my pristine Leica M that I sold you, Pagan Buddhist (A metal click vs a chammy whomp.) This has been my personal experience. This cannot be argued. And Backdoor, were you in invisible mode when you came up with that brilliant deduction or was your sugar level out of whack?"

HERE'S MOE CALLING THIS BESSA R3A OWNER STUPID

Sanardo22: "Bessa R3a shutter release problem. I have trouble depressing the shutter release buttom 'half way' to view the Exposure Time in the view finder without tripping the shutter. I have a Canonet lll g 17 and a Mamya 7 which have the same feature but rather than having a vauge feeling their release buttons have a two stages of stroke resistance."

Backdoor Alley: "how long have you had the r3a? my zeiss ikon and r4m seem ok as long as i am paying attention to them. joe"

"That Moe sure is a helpful moderator." ---FED


What do you think about the RFF/Popflash contest? Were the rules clear? Was the judging fair? Do you know that Popflash and RFF can use your photographs for up to 5 years free of charge? Do you remember this post made by the person who later won the prize?

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showpost.php?p=203475&postcount=179

Here's what you can do:

  1. Go to the Oregon Attorney General's website
  2. Paste the following text into the "Details of Complaint" box

An individual operating under the assumed business name of "Range Finder Forum" 3495 Vista Ridge Dr, West Linn, OR 97068 sponsored a photography contest during the first three months of 2006. The prize was a Zeiss Ikon camera and lens valued at more than $2,000.

After reading the information on the Oregon Attorney General's website, it appears that this contest may have violated several Oregon laws.

http://www.doj.state.or.us/finfraud/prize74.shtml

The official contest rules posted on the owner's website did not disclose the "identity of or description of the qualifications of the judges" nor the "method used in judging."

The official rules stated: "No more than 3 entries may be submitted by each photographer." "All entries must be posted in the RFF photo gallery dedicated to the contest no later than March 31, 2006. By submitting your photographs, you agree to allow PopFlash Photo or RFF to use the photographs for promotional events for period of up to (5) five years related to rangefinder photography." "After the deadline of March 31, 2006 PopFlash Photo and the RFF staff will judge and select a group of finalists from all the qualifying entries. The number of final photographs selected will be determined by PopFlash Photo and RFF.." "As with the previous contest, the forum members will choose the winner from the group of finalists by casting their votes."

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=199529

The contest wasn't closed until 4-4-06 although the deadline in the official rules was 3-31-06: http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=270400

On 4-5-06, the owner of Range Finder Forum announced that 12 finalists had been chosen and that members had 30 days to vote for their favorite photograph in a poll: http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=271716

On 4-24-06, the owner of Range Finder Forum encouraged new visitors to the website to register so they could cast their votes. These votes would have been made by people who registered AFTER the 12 finalists were announced. "A word to our members and visitors about the contest."

The contest is almost over and we are really lacking votes. I would encourage you to please cast your vote for your favorite photograph. If you are a visitor to the forum, please take the time to register and cast your vote. The photographers are depending on your votes for deciding a winner. The more votes the better for all."

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=285282

Please look into to this matter as the owner and sponsor presently have free use of my photographs for the next 5 years.

the Yashica Electro 35 GSN is ELECTROfying

sex in Cuba is cheaper than cheeseCharles writes, "Can't wait to receive the M4. My M4 is on the way! I fell for the myth with a Leica IIIa with collapsible Summicron, and I hope the M4 will fullfil my hopes and erase the minor downsides : Viewfinder, smoothness, flare (for the lens; and the major handicap of cutting to shape film and the rewind slowness! Still my M4 is a beautifully chromed brass body that should pair quite nicely with the IIIa. I'll post porn as soon as the model knocks on my door that should be in a day or two. I just wanted to share this moment so intense and unique in receiving a M4 for the first time." Yada, yada yada. Is the Leica M4 some kind of kinky German butt dildo?

October 11, 2006. I did see a professional Leica photographer today. He was standing near the corner of Broadway and Granville with a Leica M slung around his neck. I did see him standing and staring and finally placing his Teutonic tool on his eyeball and firing one off. Haha. I do know who he is too. He has his picture posted on RFF. So, yes, I did recognize him (haha). I did also snap a few today but with a modern non-Teutonic Bessa R3A; and the snapping was pristine (but not professional). Yes, I did snap pics of a professional Leica photographer today.

good doggyAugust 30, 2006. "Hey, Frank! Always a blast to get the latest from you, especially when you continue to quote my departing RFF post (wipe the semen off your Leicas). One thing I don't recall passing along to you occurred about two weeks before my explosive exit. I had made a remark critical of preventing FrankG from posting any more, and Back Door Alley responded with something like I don't know if you and Frank have something going... and went on to wah-wah about what he perceived as criticism of his moderating and general standing. That was all I needed---I was able to drop a big ol' turd right into his mouth. I replied that I had nothing going with anybody and besides, if a bunch of people had gotten together, contributed money, and bought me a new Zeiss Ikon, I'd be a lot happier than you seem to be. His response, such as it was, amounted to verbally waving a white flag. I just sat back and enjoyed my victory. I will definitely follow your instructions and participate in your pursuit of justice. There's little of that to be found elsewhere, especially in this fucked up country. If I lived in Canada I'd be ashamed to have this country as a neighbor. Regards, FED (short fuse, large blast radius)."

Click here for screen shot of Moe's appreciation.

September 14, 2006: Richard Silfverberg (RFF's double cheese) posts some drivel on RFF about Brian Mottershead's resignation from Pnut. 12 minutes later Silfverberg edits his post. 7 minutes after the edit, Moderator Curly Melisso, posts "Inappropriate Richard. Need you be reminded about using vulgarity here?"

What are you talking about, Curly? Silfverberg edited out the profanity? Three minutes later, Dave Swain (Greyhoundman) posts "Good on ya, Rover." (Dave, Curly is confused. He thinks he's a 4th grade teacher like FrankS.)

September 22, 2006: Silfverberg, who typically posts 8 times a day, hasn't posted for 8 days! That’s a record for Rich. Perhaps he’s pissed at Dave Swain for his post or Teresa Wu for suing his ass so Silfverberg digs up one of Greyhoundman's posts on cameramentor.com where Swain referred to RFF members as "they." Silfverberg concludes that that post has to be fake because Greyhoundman is one of the core RFF members and as such, should have said "we" instead of "they."

Then it gets uglier. Swain posts a PM that he received from Silfverberg, "Well, it's good to know what you are really like. I bet Moses is happy he finally got rid of you." Can you believe a retarded statement such as that one was made by an IT person making more than $200,000 per year? Hey, Silfverberg, do you work for Intel, too? (Dave Swain’s dog, Moses, died a few months back.)

Then Silfverberg posts a PM that he received from Greyhoundman, "Piss off you primp. Not all of us buy into your holier than thou horse ****. Why don't you and Joe go and rub some seamen over your cameras or go and shoot some toilets? G'man."

Great idea, Dave! Silfverberg please leave the seat down for joe. And Jeni, please send joe that pic of your naval because the RFF "camera porn" isn’t doing anything for him.

Señor TerribleBeing the loser that he is, Señor Terrible was stirring up some shit on the Pnut once again. Why don’t the mods ban him for trolling? Jorge wrote, "If anyone is displaying tackless behaviour here its you. You sound like a bitter envious person with nothing but hatred in you. I pitty people like you because their ignorance really deprives them of the better things in life. I feel for you man. get some help." Vinay Patel snaps back, "Of the two of us you appear the one who is envious and angry. You have been using photo.net repeatedly to increase the worth of your own competitive site by increasing the number of hits. You have started false rumours regarding the M8 claiming that you have access to insider information at Leica. Those are the facts borne out in many posts, and not allegations based on some suspicion of mine. Your vitriolic response goes to show you are well aware of your actions." All Vinay did was call a spade a spade: "Externally, the M8 looks almost identical to the M7 but for the lack of a couple of the top mounted controls and the LCD screen on the back...Thanks but no thanks. I clicked on enough of your links to your website in the past only to find examples of your personal rumour-mongering. That, posting numerous teasers to attract people from this site to yours, and your scheme offer a lens-coding service undercutting Leica's prices, although you know nothing of how the coding is programmed, doesn't speak well of your ethics sir...your obsession his sensationalist rumors and links directing everyone to hit his site is tacky self-promotion."

"Is a three year old kid too young for a camera? Some of you may have seen my daughter, Dana, in my tests of lenses. She now wants to do what Dad does and she wants a camera bad. She already had before some fancy fake camera that makes sounds and has a flash, but now she wants a real camera...Does anyone here have a suitable digital camera to sell me for Dana? Thanks. Regards, Raid Amin." Raid baby, forget digital. They suck. Buy your 3-year-old a Voigtlander Bessa R3A from Camera Quest. The black one. She'll grow up a straight shooter and with style. You're welcome.

help the homelessHere's the chorus for the Slaughterhouse Polka Sing-along: "Herr Vulgar likes dat sex in Cuba 'cause it's cheaper dan cheese, cheaper dan cheese, cheaper dan cheese, JA, JA, JA!" Herr Vulgar's "sex is cheaper than cheese" (in Cuba) post is one of the weirdest posts on RFF. It was never deleted by the "big cheese," Jorge or his chief cheese cutter, Back-door-alley. Kind of makes you wonder if big cheese is a bastard with a German father.

Click here for "sex is cheaper than cheese" screen shot.

Anyone bought this wrist strap? "Made in China looks like the A&A strap...says it's made of leather. I might try one but if anyone already has i would appreciate some eval on it. Thanks, Joe." (It has "Leica" embossed in the leather, it’s from China, it’s cheap and it may look good with Rizzuto’s "lovely diamond stud" earring. Man, that guy has class.) Did you ever wonder why tough guy Rizzuto uses wrist straps instead of neck straps? "I can't use a neck strap. The smallest amount of pressure applied to my neck results in a massive headache. I put a wrist strap on the mat for safety from dropping it."

Stute Verkehrs-GmbH, Hans Böckler Str. 48, D-28217 Bremen Germany. Fon.: +49 421 3862-324; Fax: +49 421 3862-292; E-Mail: volker hett (bei) stute.de.

Señor Terrible's twin brother separated at birthJorge did plop this on the Pnut, "Leica lens coding service from RFF! Rangefinder forum .com is in the process of acquiring the necessary equipment and data to encode M lenses with the new Leica 6-bit code for use with the upcoming M8. Once confirmed, this service will be offered to RFF members at a substantial savings. RFF is also working on applying the code to the Zeiss ZM lenses. For more information keep an eye on this thread." Tony Polson comments, "I trust the guys at RFF have taken advice from a competent patent lawyer!" Jorge has now quit the broom pushing gig at Intel for his fish farm is making good money. The pond of suckers really do suck but it is he who is the bottom feeder.

cheaper dan cheese, JA JA JA!Billy Buttocks, a devote Chatholic, did challenge Copake Ham to fisty cuffs in front of his home in Wilson, NC. Billy called Copake a jerk-off, punk, S.O.B. and many other very bad names. None of the moderators deleted Billy's posts because they are also Chatholic. Oh, and do check out camera mentor, "Who are you again? Just kidding. Really, I'm not starting a forum. I'm trying to see if I can do something different like community oriented relationship building and online training and knowledge repository. Long story. But I'm doing a lot of learning first. This is up in the meantime...another long story! Anyway, watch this space I hope be able to do a bunch of stuff soon." (I think he meant to say, "knowledge suppository" and "long story" = bullshit.) And good ol' Joe writes as a thread starter, "just loaded 8 rolls of delta 400 into my big tank. tomorrow i will pour in the chemicals and develop the film into negs. after that i have some delta 100 and hp5 still needing to be souped. i need better discipline - to process my film after a roll or 2 - it'd be so much easier." Gotta love those camera forums! (If you're a GASbag.)

With his new avatar self-portrait in a black nightrobe, Joe mod freaks out over jamming his CL's shutter (while fondling it in front of the computer naked). "I just jammed my CL! Oh man," he cries out to RFF's fondling community. "The shutter won't fire! Not lucky!" After some suggestions the crisis gets resolved, "Fixed it! Thank goodness. When in doubt a little blunt force trauma, I gently banged the bottom of the camera against my work bench and the lever advanced and the shutter fired. I am breathing normally again. Thanks guys. Good thing I have the Z1 as a good back-up camera or I would have panicked." The Zeiss Ikon as a back-up camera for the crappy Leica CL?

One outstanding former RFF'er did write to me about that thread where back alley Joe Rizzuto asked 27 year old Jenni MacAulay if she had any nice navel pics for him to see for the next time he sits on the toilet and runs out of film. Ok, she’s 27 and married and she flirts with 55 year old back alley Joe from Edmonchuck; but she quickly realized that he's a pervert and perhaps a whole lot more scary. The thread continued and she never did post a pic of her naval. Members suggested Rizzuto’s camera porn wasn’t turning him on and that was why he created the twisted thread. In fact, some members begged him to shut it down but it was Kim Coxon who finally locked it after Joe refused to cease and delete it. Anyway, this outstanding former RFF'er sent me the whole thread via screen caps and concluded with, "Joe Rizzuto’s avatar went from a little girl to a self portrait of himself sitting on the toilet pissing. Now he’s a Leica CL. Oh well, the camera porn isn’t doing much for Joe right now. He needs a photo of a 27 year old woman’s naval. This creep needs to be investigated."

Backdoor alley's fabulous advice: "a cheap trick and one that works pretty well is to use a slide mount and just look at 'life' through it for a few weeks. Keep evaluating a scene over and over, breaking it up into sections till you find the 'best' one or the one you like the best. As for prints, the real thing on a wall is a great way to go. As for galleries here on RFF: Todd H., Ray G., Graksi all come to mind. There are lots and don't forget to learn from the not so good shooters also. Look at everything you can and ask yourself what do I like/not like about this photo."

cheaper dan cheese, JA, JA, JA!Volker Hett did write, his pictures are the best. Although he's only ever posted 3, I must say he's full of crap. In the fabled hamlet of Bremen, with its surviving Gothic erections, it is here where he snaps and farts and drinks and dumps and sometimes cracks a brown-eye. He does only drink Teutonic brew, or so he claims; and he only peckers ebony cheeks as long as they're young and fresh. For he does not like Aryan girls (and boys), though he does like his auto Jap German G2. (It fondles well because of the baby bum finish.)

JA, cheaper dan cheeseCunt struck and shit faced, Volker Hett did brag, "Last year in Matanzas/Cuba the tour guide in the Cuevas Belamar told us to say 'sex' when he took a picture of us. SEX is cheaper than cheese and wider available at least in Cuba." "Yeah, down and dirty in Cuba. He must sleep with hookers when he goes to Cuba for his cigars," says one former forum member from LA.

this tiny chap shoots juvenile bints & crusty chapelsTrevor Hare did write, "In the meantime those of us entrusted with keeping the faith strongly believe that film is very much alive. Who exactly entrusted you in particular Al? If you are a high priest of chemicals I suspect we need a different definition of high and certainly a different one of chemicals. Now I'm going to head out, pick up my date for the evening, and maybe run a little film through my Leica CL. Jane prefers being photographed with film. Hey, if that turns her on who am I to argue?" This tiny troll is a white haired pom from Portsmouth, and he bounces to the theocratic oligarchic beat, L. Ron Hubbard style.

Herr Hett and Sir Hare first met picking up their papas at a camp reunion. Sadly they did lose touch soon after because Hogan had given the list to Colonel Klink and then it was passed on to Schultz for safe keeping. Well, Schultz will be Schults and it did fall into the sauerkraut so it was accidentally eaten. Yes, it was a joyous time back at Stalag 13, even though the blitzkrieg was all around. The capers, the schnapps, the women.... Not until the Pnut was born did they finally reunite. Now Hett and Hare are best of friends and planning a trip for hot meat and, of course, the Cuban cigars.

cheaper dan cheeseCamera case review by Joe Ruzzuto. "geez, it looks like a makeup case! my rina case was delivered today. initial reaction is disappointment. padding is thinner than i thought it would be. the photos of it made me think thicker, more substantial. it seems really well made & very good looking, no beefs there. occasional bumps might be protected from but i would not want to drop my camera while it was in it. initial cost was $50. shipping/postage was $33. customs (handling fee) & gst was 11.14 thank goodness i got a great deal on the minolta 90!!" Thanks Moe!

"Hey buddy! Here's more funny poo: Jorge did write I work for Intel in Chandler now. I have a 1 year tour of duty and will berenting. It would be dumb to buy in a market that will crash anytime soon. If I can get out sooner I will but doubtful. Yes people are not very friendly here, including Paul Otellini. Don't get me wrong. I don't fit in very well with the progressive crowd in Oregon. But its sure nice up there. Rain never bothered me and driving is nice except in rush hour. One day I will get back. If any of you are an Intel executive and can get me back NOW, I will give you all of my brand new M gear. Arizona is hot! Send me your MO's to my Oregon address. My mail is being forwarded."

Posted in the Leica forum, the troll, Eric Milner did poo with this one: "I haven't used filters for years, and lenses with hoods rarely get their lens cap on." This D.P. uses a Nikon digital and Leica not. Oh, and Eric's also posting under John Graham so that he can attack good old Al without incriminating himself to the loser mods. What a twit.

That Richard Silfverberg did write, "What I think about the Sonnar 50/1.5. I absolutely love this lens...it pains me to even write this. I believe the Sonnar beats my beloved first version rigid Summicron 50/2 when it comes to how creamy it renders the out of focus areas and how pleasingly it captures skin tones. It's sharp where needed as well." Thank you, Richard.

Trev's dirty daughterOops. Jorge moved back to Portland, Oregon in May, 2006! On May 22, he did post, "Folks, I am moving back and phase 1 of my move is this week while I drive a truck from the desert to the clouds. Any RFF'er possibly want to catch up while I'm there?" It's funny how some people bounce all over the place. Hey, and Jorge is now hungry for more money (to be squeezed from his flock). In other news, I am told Cosina's Voigtlander Bessa R2M's shutter is indeed more quiet than the R2A's and R3A's! It is not electrofied, however.

Here's a new-old one from Joe (this is Joe's favourite line): "I'm about ready to close this thread. As far as I'm concerned there are too many old ladies on this site with too much time and an obsession for Bill, who no longer posts here; and if you continue to criticize the moderation here or quote that criticism, then perhaps there are other internet forums that would welcome that sort of thing but it's getting tired here and getting there fast. I hope this is clear." Richard Sillverberg jumps in: "Joe, with all due respect, didn't Jorge say that this off-topic forum was open for anything as long as there were no profanities used? He even mentioned, flame away!. To close down an off-topic thread because a moderator doesn't like the topic doesn't seem very consistent with the previous guidelines. If people enjoy talking about Bill, why not let them? What's the difference between that and talking about soccer or anything else? Just my $0.02." 90% of the peanut gallery: "hey! my post count has disappeared! Mine too!" Jorge Torralba: "some changes to the site. In an effort to make the site less cluttered, I have combined many forum into just a few to minimize redundancy. I have also made the off topic forum show up on the home page. The forum title will be changed to off topic. All this based on user feedback. Any typos or incorrect spelling are due to electronic transfer errors." Frank S: "you know, all this (current need for change) could have been avoided by not making those changes a few months ago."

"The trouble with RFF," Jorge Torralba did write, "I need everyone’s help on deciding how to handle classifieds gone wrong. One of the main concerns is what happens when someone advertises an item as a 10 and the buyer thinks it was a 4 when received? What happens when the buyer contacts the seller to discuss his or her displeasure with the item not being even close to the way it was described? What happens when the seller makes no effort to remedy the situation? This happens regularly all over the internet including RFF. Should other remedies be implemented? Please provide your feedback on this matter since one day you may also be a victim of a misleading ad. Thanks." Jorge has mice running around inside his head! Then the ass kissing, Pherdinand, did suck hard: "you need feedback? User: Jorge Torralba. Feedback: a great guy, easy to deal with, and flexible." Hmmm. I'll stick with e-bay, thanks. At least I can read real feedback & a whole lot more. "Jorge Torralba" "Jorge Torralba" "Jorge Torralba"

June 18, 2006. Several more RFF members did get bad-mouthed by Jorge Torralba and his bitch, backdoor alley; then they got booted with IP's locked. As I mentioned somewhere here on this great poo site, soon Jorge ain't gonna have no one left. He doesn't care, though, because he's all ready got their membership fees to buy his new Leica M8 and lenses! The disturbing part of the saga is that the remaining members keep asking, what happened? Why was so and so kicked off? Example: "could folks here just clear the air and answer, what did copake_ham do to get banned?" The thread lived for 1 hour and then it was nuked.

Gee, I guess "Terrible" will have to lift his wife's C.C. and do a little Leica shopping to pass the time. Poor whiffy slaving unhappily to make ends meet. Anyway, I wish George (copake_ham) fulfillment on the Aplug. RFF R.I.P.

Good news: Jorge announced another forum upgrade; and one of the moderaters has decided to stay on (instead of quiting); and Richard Silfverberg has several new stupid polls! Bad news: Camera Quest will no longer carry Zeiss. This is bad because he sold them at gray market prices. You'll now have to get your Zeiss from Pop Flash. He's a good guy though he did have the wool pulled over his eyes with RFF's fixed Zeiss Ikon contest. However, do keep in mind that Bessa is best and Camera Quest is best for Bessas.

Under the pseudo, Paul Chan, Eric Milner, professional troll, did post this thread starter today on the Pnut: "antiquated Old Horse with M & Film? Most of us have probably been through this road before. You're out with a group on a field excursion trip carrying your Ms and bricks of film. They brandish the latest DSLRs, image bank storage device and laptops. When you're all done for the day, they upload their images on CDs, clear their CF cards and tinker with their latest software in the hotel rooms. And they do this while giving you a cursory look on your 20-year old M, extolling the convenience of RAWs and probably saying out loud in thier minds 'you're an old antiquated old horse' with that museum hardware and film you tot around. So if there's any one simple but courteous reply you have to speak out your mind, what could that be? This is not a film v digital thread please." However, some members are on to him and indirectly stated who he was. Eric Milner now only uses a Nikon digital camera, yet he keeps posting on the Pnut's Leica forum.

booted guru"Sometimes it just doesn't pay to be the guru. Rainy day here today. Our church was busy, though - 8:30 Mass, then Senior Grad Appreciation Pancake Breakfast, then 11:00 Mass, then something we call the Living Rosary (which is just a giant set of rosary beads and we act out all the parts). As usual, I was asked to take photos. So afterwards, one of our more senior parishioners comes up to me and says, I hear you know a lot about cameras---you want to buy my cameras? They're worth quite a bit. You could get a job with the newspaper with cameras like these. Start you off with professional equipment." After a bit of guru advice, Bill concluded with wishing him luck with the sale, and the old fart snaps, "I thought you knew something about cameras!" and stomps off! Then Bill went home and uploaded photos to the Knights of Columbus website, played with a broken camera and other knick-knacks, had a nap; and later he had a beer (or so the guru claimed). When Bill's not in church or not fondling, you can find him at RFF anytime of day or night; and please do visit his not 1 not 2 but 3 websites! Wow! I bow down to thee. Ha-ha. Oh, and his wife has a few too, too many.

Billy, help save Mike's Leica! Click here quickly, or at least give him your guru prayers; and do use your Catholic beads. Oh, say hello to Bertram Schacherer for Ramon Generoso. Thanks.

More from the guru. "Just got back from the eye doctor, it's been about five years since I was last given a checkup. At that time, they wanted to fit me with bifocals, so I said to heck with that noise and didn't go back. But I've finally caved. I admit it, I can't read a bloody thing in a book or magazine without taking off my glasses and holding it really close. Stupid for waiting this long...vanity. Not that I cared who could 'tell' that I was wearing bifocals, I don't. I just didn't want to have to wear them. So I went down to the place, and they poked and prodded my poor eyeballs and put drops in, and now I can barely see to type this - very dialated and so on. But I guess my eyes are ok, glacoma-wise. Nothing untoward happening inside the old orbs. The good news is that my right eye hasn't changed much in five years. The bad news is that my left eye has. The good news is that I'm right-eye dominant. The bad news is that I'm no longer correctable to 20/20 in my left eye. The good news is that I have pretty good vision insurance. The bad news is that my eyes are so bad with astigmatism that two pair of glasses still set me back $325.00. The good news is that these eye drops are getting me off work today. The bad news is that I can't read (and can barely see this screen). The good news is that I managed to persuade a nurse (I dunno, what do they call them now?) to pick out my frames for me, so I don't end up looking like Dame Edna or Elton John, because I have no taste when it comes to that sort of thing. The bad news is that I just looked at the bill; they gave me the 'Senior Citizen's Discount' and didn't ask for my ID. The really bad news is that I'm only 45. My opinion on getting old? I'm against it. Best regards, Bill Mattocks." (Billy bolted before RFF could give him the boot.) Hey, did you know that authentic Wigwam Jones 'Gremlin of Love' T-shirts are now available for $14.95 USD? It looks great with a RFF cap and vintage rangefinder camera. Buy one for the next camera fondler convention and show the world just how much you love Wiggy.

On May 6, 2006 Jorge Torralba did write, "we have the winner! All, the contest has created some exciting moments here at RFF. Every entrance was great! The 12 finalists that were chosen were great! But now the members have spoken and a winner has been chosen. The winner of the RFF/PopFlash photo contest for the new (silver paint) Zeiss Ikon kit is none other than member RML!!!" Remy (RML) is a RFF core member. Note: a black camera always costs more than it's silver twin, but not with the Voigtlander Bessa R2A and R3A. Cosina decided to deliver black professionalism for less! "Ikonical," eh?

doggy be goodMore poo from RFF! Thread starter: "everyone with G.A.S spend loads of money today as an anti-protest against rights for illegal aliens." The peanut gallery, "I guess you have the right to Sieg heil but I don't know if this is the proper place for it." Reply: "I'm about as far from a Nazi as you can get." Peanut gallery, "you are an idiot and a hypocrite." Reply, "the Great American Spic-out? Then go ahead. I invite all who are so inclined to cut loose and blast away but the rest of you might want to wipe the semen off your Leicas and go out and have some fun!" Jorge Torralba then nuked the thread and went out demonstrating himself. However, he did leave his pristine semen socked Leica MP at home for fear of getting mugged. G.A.S: gather, acquire and spend. I say, gag and spew or buy a Bessa.

There was no protest march here in Vancouver; and the only time we send someone back is when they are not standing on Canadian soil and the CIA snatches them and whisks them away to a foreign CIA-run Gulag. They are given reading material consisting of Playboy and the Holy Bible. Then they are forced to eat apple pie in the nude (in-between the electric shock sessions). Guards, of course, are allowed to photograph these prisoners as long as the photos are not released to the press.

shame on youGeorge J. Schneph (copake_ham) did write, "is it better to push or shoot faster film? My wife and I have been invited to attend a special benefit performance by a very well-known classical pianist. He will be performing at a community for retarded adults near our home in Copake." George, please.... We only call RFF's core retarded.

In an attemt to regain control of RFF's reins, Joe did write, "we no longer accept registrants with hotmail, gmail, yahoo, etc accounts." He is one smart booby, eh? Jorge did write, "my only concern, believe it or not, is what would happen if I were to die? How would RFF continue? I have no disaster plan for the continuation of RFF. I hope RFF never comes to that." (Yeah, right, Jorge. Get a life.)

Golly gee, yuk-yuk, Zeiss truly is sharpAfter receiving his "new Zeiss Ikon with a 35/2 Biogon lens," a gift from generous RFF members such as myself, the crusty RFF moderator discovered that the new Zeiss M lenses truly are "fabulous." He wrote. "I liked the new lens so much that I sold off a goodly part of my small Canon collection in order to buy myself another new lens, the 25/2.8.... The glass is (dare I say it) pristine, sparkling clean and clear.... This isn't really a complaint about old but more a small nod to the new. Boy, it's nice to play with new. I can understand why some folks sell off much of their older gear in order to buy some new gear, often much less new gear." Well, good for you, Joe. It usually takes the fondler a lifetime (or a good bonk on the head) to see the light, but you managed to do it in your final stretch. Did you find Jesus? Just keep off the Tim's coffee and keep your stick on the ice. You'll live longer to enjoy your new super-sharp Zeiss lenses. Repeat after me, Joe: 'Zeiss lenses are best! Bessa bodies are best!' And there you have it from the old horse's mouth, nice people (shills and trolls).

And if you don't believe the Bessa M-mount bodies are better than the Zeiss Ikon body, just visit the RFF forums. Today, April 16, 2006, Charlie posted: "my New ZI lasted exactly 30 days and around 5 rolls of film. Now it's off to Tony at PopPhoto (good thing I saved his original packing box with the airbags). Was rewinding a roll of 800 film yesterday when the rewind crank with a spring-like device came off in my hand. Shit happens, but I expected more from this camera. I can only hope it's not indicative of things to come." Then the moderator jumped to the rescue: "My ZI has been fine since I got the second body. It has been traveling back and forth to work everyday in the domke 5xb bag. It gets thrown onto the passenger seat from the driver's side door. No problems shooting or changing lenses, meter is fine." Wow! the new Zeiss Ikon is crap! At least it's better than the more expensive Leica M7 and MP. You see, folks. This is why I bought not one but two Cosina's Voigtlander Bessa R3A cameras. And now I stand beside myself. I hope your 2nd Ikon body holds up, Joe!

I'm a 'tologistSo the saga continues.... With egg on his face, Joe, the RFF moderator started a Zeiss Ikon poll asking a bunch of dumb questions like, did you have problems with your Ikon? Of course 50% voted yes. Ya, the silver Ikon really seems to be messed up. The newer black professional one, however, doesn't seem to suffer these factory flaws. The experts were correct; the black one is professional and it has the bugs worked out. Poor Joe. Thank the good Lord that Cosina's working on the new Zeiss Ikon 11, a rounder bodied Leica killer and bug free---fingers crossed. And that's not all. Cosina is currently working on a new mechanical shutter'd F-mount SLR, a beefed up FM10. I don't know whether Zeiss is involved, but you can bet your booties it's gonna be a cock-a-hoop. After all, Zeiss will need a Nikon F-mount body to flog those new super-sharp Zeiss F-mount lenses since Nikon disposed of this line. Hallelujah! Cosina is Lord!

Mex Gabrielma - fondler, alcoholic & RFF'erFrank S., the guy who collects unsharp---'er, soft lenses, has been awfully lame these days since he babbled his prudence bit over and over all over the boards. He even claimed he was Buddha-like! Damn! In the good book it does sayeth, "Judge not, that ye be not judged." Sorry that you buggered yourself big time with that one but a man is only as good as his word, or something like that. Now cower in shame and start taking some pictures instead of fondling your BMW motor bikes. Spring time's no excuse, boob. Get with the program! Oops, now that I think of it, I have known to fondle my BMW from time to time.

The trouble with E-bay. I got some fair deals but I also got ripped-off. Par for the course, I guess. E-baying's sort of like gambling or playing the stock market. What really pisses me off is the lack of item discription half of the time; and when I e-mail the seller, I get either a tardy half-ass reply or none at all. Then there is the peculiar phenomenon of items getting bid up way over it's true cost. Take for example this silver Nikon FM3a I was looking at. The bloody thing sold for about $200 more than what it's selling for new from any Canadian Nikon dealer. Hmmm. Why am I surprised? That was the second inflated FM3a in the last couple of weeks, I noticed. E-bay trolling is a love/hate relationship.

Hi, Ma!And as for the the super small guy with the super big nose (and ego). After posting a number of stupid polls, the chip Dick Silfverberg now thinks he is moderator of not one but several camera boards. The only thing stopping him is that he's not a moderator; just your common San Francisco whack-job, in my opinion.

Here is what Richard Silfverberg did post about me the other day on the Pnut. He was using one of his many Pseudos (Forum Shopper, Mar 19, 2007; 09:55 p.m.): "I don't 'know' anything, Brad, but I infer things from the deafening silence. I have been a subscriber and am unsure if I will subscribe again, based on some of PG's comments during his last period of apparent engagement with the Photo.net business. In one of these, he suggested he didn't even like the subscription model and might soon dispense with it. This username seems to be the one my mobile device is set on, and since my computer immolated itself yesterday I have been confined to the mobile device all day and figured no one would mind if I was civil. Apparently I was mistaken about that. Choosing this persona originally was not a mistake since I was using it to encourage the site to ban that psychopath Frank Granovski (a prescient admonition, it turned out) and I had the presence of mind to think it unwise that an obviously unbalanced individual know my real name. Many whose real names he did fixate on are now regular fixtures on his slanderous website. I am glad not to be among them." Boy, oh, boy. Some dweeb sure does hate this poor poomeister, ha ha.

Now for the final word on the Zeiss Ikon Saga, by Camera Quest. (After this I shall let the Ikon rest.) "I am not going to share sales figures, but so far, zero Zeiss Ikon bodies have been returned to me for any problem. They seem a relatively dependable camera which is likely to only get better as time goes on. Any NEW camera model, much less any entirely NEW camera line, is going to see more than an average number of problems over the first six months. After that, the initial growing pains of an entirely new production production line will only get better, which results in ever better quality control and reliability. Zeiss is not just any camera manufacturer. These guys know how to get it right ! Cosina's Mr. K is there to make sure it can be done right at an unbelievably low price compared to a German production line. So relax people, you have a real quality product at a bargain price!" (Buy your Zeiss from Camera Quest and no where else; and do go for the black professional one with some super-sharp Zeiss lenses.)

buy a Bessa insteadWhy you should never buy a used Leica body nor lens. They get taken apart, repainted, and re-assembled incorrectly. With lenses, it's the same but since Leica Nimrods are purists and never use filters, used lenses are usually fucked. Take for example this RFF post from Mitch Loeber: "aperture blades fell out! Well I think I'm sunk. I was lubricating the aperture ring on my LTM 50/2 Summicron collapsible, and to make a long story short I seriously blew it and turned the lens over. All 10 of the aperture blades fell out onto my table. So after a few expletives I tried piecing the puzzle back together, but it was no use. Are there any drawings of how these blades should go, and in what pattern?" And of course the not so wise moderator jumps in with, "I'm not alone!"

Johnny bought a Leica & pooky did comeFilter poo from RFF's oh most wise one. "When I was a knob I put a filter on everything. I also used never ready cases. Then I decided I was against filters and thought to myself, when was the last time I hurt a lens? Answer...never! Now I have become more pragmatic. In summer / nice weather - no filters. In winter / snow/ sleet etc - UV filters." Well, Joe. I think you are beyond reason. Wouldn't you think that those hot dusty summers hammer your pristine lenses with dirt and sand paticles, eating them away until they're fucked? 'Er, Joe. So what's your take on using lens hoods? By the way, you are a knob.

More garbage from Joe, RFF's double cheese and number 1 mod. "Top 50 posters...I am at the top. I hope this is a good thing." Then he starts a new "who here shoots only rangefinders?...not a poll" thread and writes, "from another thread came this question in my head and so I ask, who here shoots with only rangefinder cameras? I do, for one. I own only rangefinders (except for my little digicam and I only use that to shoot my rangefinders)." No, kidding. Hell---wow! You are so cool. Your crap does plop daily.

Call me Moe, says Joe Ruzzuto. "Hex' AF has landed. Camera is in very nice shape, very clean glass. It is a bit more hefty that I recall from fondling it in a camera store many years ago. The lens is so clear I put a UV filter on it. I don't want to be the one to scratch it." ...he writes. Back to using filters are we? You are still a knob.

Tight fitting LH-5 hood on Nokton Classic 40mm f/1.4, by Trevor Hare. "The new Nokton Classic 40mm f/1.4 arrived this morning. Good thing too. With the Elmar sold, my M6 was blind for almost 48 hours! Nokton has a suprisingly good feel to it. Much smoother than I expected and much better finished also. Popped it onto the M6 and fitted the B+W MRC UV filter. Great! Now I get to the LH-5 hood. Very nicely finished, solid bit of bit. But why, why did mine almost need force to attach? I was expecting some sort of re-assuring 'snick' or click but no. OK, it went on as designed and nothing broke but it was not an easy moment! Luckily I intend to keep the hood on all the time so will not have to repeat too often." This is a beautiful post, Trevor. Hats off! I'm glad you forced the thing on to make it fit (you fool). I guess you will soon be selling this new lens to some unsuspecting sucker on the pnut.

sex in Cuba is cheaper dan cheese, JA, JA, JA!Some poor sucker on RFF posted he just blew all his money on a Leica M6 and was wondering if he should get an expensive Luigi case for it. Then Jorge Torralba, the site's owner, jumps in to pimp Luigi cases because Luigi is one of his sponsors. Here is what Jorge posted: "Well, you really need to hold a camera in a Luigi case. Besides, it's excellent quality and craftmanship, and it feels like the camera is the case. I would never own a different case now. Its a pefect combo." Yes, Jorge. That's excellent advice. An expensive leather case is much more important than a good sharp lens, plus leather makes for better photography.

"Hey Frank, Ralph Melisso is Rover, the moderator... the stooge who looks like Curly. LOL." Yes, you can always count on Curly for all of your RFF concerns. His real name is indeed Ralph Meliso; and he lives at 109 Cannon Dr., Amston, CT 06231-1308. His phone number is, 860-228-7612---and his eBay ID is rmeliso (if you ever should have the need to buy a fondling device from him---the double ended dildos are best). If you still don't know who he is, he is Number 2 Son, 'er, moderator at RFF. Check out his toilet pic below. NYUK NYUK NYUK.

Ralf Meliso's reason to get a Leica - an HCB decisive moment for sure - NYUK NYUK NYUK NYUK! Right Moe?Numerous members are angry about problems and changes at RFF, bitiching and attacking each other as they see life as they know it slipping away. What are they to do? Shoot some pictures? Though their posts are quite entertaining, I've never seen such a large group of whining women in all my life. Even the owner is unable to keep his Cuban temper in check. Hey, did you know that RFF is now a 2-tier operation? Yes, when you pay you can post with other paid bitches which will be hidden from the non-paying bitches. Lovely, huh? The great German Canadian, Francisco 'trowsky, did write, "I'll contibute if RFF stays the way it was." Then several other bitches do a copy and paste job posting the same thing. However, many bitches refuse to use Paypal but they do want to pay. For example, Michiel writes: "I have to agree. I would gladly contribute, but will not consider paypal." But the owner refuses to post his mailing address for members who want to send him a money order! How's that for shooting oneself in the foot? Ah, don't fret boys and bitches, for Jorge's photo, mailing address and a bonus biography, just e-mail me---so you may send him a money order instead of that ebay/paypal rip.

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